Smokers Rights Newsletter Encyclopedia
Location: WI State Update
Topic: Defiance
Ban The Ban






Ryan Evans: Founders of America didn't intend to 'level playing field'
Letter to the editor
April 19, 2008
Why must everything be fair?
We continue to hear the bizarre calls for a "level playing field" when it comes to smoking bans, but doesn't that really just defeat the purpose of local government? If everything were equal and level, why even have local government? Why not just have each state impose totalitarian rule over their entire "property" and dissolve all local governance?
Of course I'm being facetious, but only because this is the mentality that is permeating our state. I'm not even a smoker, but I believe in individual rights over group rights. Our country was created to ensure the rights of an individual and not a group.
Read the Federalist Papers. Learn and understand what individual rights means and learn what limited government means. Understand that the role of government is not to take care of you and protect you from annoyances.
For those who are interested in understanding how America was designed to protect the people from minority or majority rule (and why this is important to the smoking ban fight), read Federalist 10. In it, James Madison talks about the troubles caused by minority or majority factions driven by a common passion.
The Founders built this country to be able to resist such things -- yet somehow we have allowed this to erode completely.
What's worse is that we're teaching our kids to go against the Founders' vision for America. I wonder if federalism and the foundations of America are even taught in school any longer when a state university newspaper prints this:
"Doyle must also push through a statewide smoking ban. A statewide ban would smooth out the legal differences across municipalities with smoking bans, while ensuring uniform health standards in Wisconsin businesses."
Uniformity was not the intention of America. If one local government makes a choice, it is not up to the state to equalize things because the next city makes a different choice. That is one of the wonders of being free to live and to make choices.
Ryan Evans
research director, Ban
the Ban Wisconsin Inc.
St. Croix Falls
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letters/282335


Statewide smoking ban appears to be dead

March 12, 2008

MADISON — Barring a last-minute breakthrough, a statewide smoking ban is about to be snuffed out in the Legislature.

The Assembly planned to finish its work for the year today and the smoking ban was not up for a vote. The Senate has likewise not taken a vote on the ban, which must pass both chambers and be signed by the governor before it becomes law. The Senate finishes its work on Thursday.

Supporters vowed to try again next year.

“We’re not giving up,” said Rep. Steve Wieckert, R-Appleton. “We’re in for the long haul.”

Gov. Jim Doyle has been advocating for the ban for months, but it met with staunch opposition from the powerful Tavern League lobby. It opposed having the ban start in bars at the same time as in restaurants and other work places.

No new talks with the ban’s opponents were planned for today, said Maureen Busalacchi, executive director of Smoke Free Wisconsin. But she still hadn’t given up hope, despite the long odds.

“Until they all go home, we’re not going to take the pressure off,” she said.

Busalacchi, along with the American Cancer Society and others, attempted for months to broker a compromise with opponents.

The Tavern League suggested having the ban to start in January for all businesses but bars, where it would start on July 1, 2011. Supporters, including Doyle, balked and argued that the ban should start everywhere at the same time.

Wieckert blamed the Tavern League for killing the measure that he said had broad public support.

“One special interest group can do in the will of the state,” Wieckert said. “That’s sad. But I’m a firm believer in democracy. In the end, we will win.”

Pete Madland, the Tavern League’s chief executive officer, said his group’s position was supported by many people across the state as well.

“I think legislators understand this is not just about employee health,” he said. “This is about people’s jobs, people’s businesses, people’s livelihood, and it’s not to be taken too lightly.”

The Tavern League had argued that a statewide smoking ban would hurt bar owners, especially those with smaller operations. Madland vowed to oppose the ban as long as his group’s members do.

Backers attempted to spur the Legislature to action last week by bringing in Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong. But even Armstrong’s appearances in Madison and suburban Milwaukee didn’t move the opposition.

Doyle has argued that Wisconsin needs a ban because neighboring Illinois and Minnesota recently enacted one.

Twenty-three states have banned smoking in bars and restaurants, according to the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids. Four more states prohibit smoking in restaurants but exempt stand-alone bars.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080312/GPG0101/80312083


 
Statewide Smoking Ban Snuffed Out in Legislature
WBAY - Green Bay,WI,USA
By Jason Zimmerman Hopes for a statewide smoking ban are once again on hold. The Assembly ended its session Wednesday without giving the bill a vote, ...

Speaking Out About Eau Claire's Proposed Smoking Ban
WEAU-TV 13 - Eau Claire,WI,USA
City leader, the local Tavern League and bar owners are speaking out about making Eau Claire smoke free. We first told you Thursday, that the city is ...

Lawton, Hanna push statewide smoking ban
Oshkosh Northwestern - Oshkosh,WI,USA
Barbara Lawton said Thursday state legislators still have time to take action on a statewide workplace smoking ban before the legislative session ends March ...

Committee sends Wisconsin smoking ban bill to full Assembly
Wausau Daily Herald - Wausau,WI,USA
AP MADISON — An Assembly committee voted 6-3 today to send a proposed smoking ban to the full Assembly. But committee chairman Rep. ...

Statewide Smoking Ban?
WEAU-TV 13 - Eau Claire,WI,USA
Thousands of people gathered in Madison to hear seven time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong speak about Wisconsin’s smoking ban at a rally Tuesday. ...

Both Sides Keep Fire Under Issue of State Smoking Ban
WBAY - Green Bay,WI,USA
By Sarah Thomsen There is just over a week left to get a statewide smoking ban up for a vote in the legislature before both the Senate and Assembly go home. ...

Smoking ban debate heats up
Baraboo News Republic - Baraboo,WI,USA
He supports a smoking ban that would take effect after the new year. A spokesman for Assembly Majority Leader Jeff Fitzgerald, R-Horicon, said the earliest ...


Statement of response to the Baraboo News Republic
For Immediate Release, March 4, 2008
RE: “Smoking ban debate heats up”
Ban the Ban Wisconsin wishes to express their disappointment with the Baraboo News Republic’s article entitled “Smoking ban debate heats up.” While the Baraboo News Republic should be commended for the fact that the article features both sides of the smoking ban debate, the fact of the matter is that the pro-ban elements of the debate were the predominant feature of the story.
“There is more to the ban opponents than just the Tavern League. This is an issue that affects all of Wisconsin, and yet the only thing being consistently portrayed by the news media is the ‘woe is us, we demand the right to be safe from secondhand smoke’ crowd versus the taverns and bars. While the taverns and bars are indeed an element to consider, they are not the only opponent to contend with.”
Ban the Ban Wisconsin has been stirring up the local communities and working to get the people of Wisconsin involved in this issue. While they do indeed share the end goals of the Tavern League, their scope extends beyond that of the League.
“Over and over again we hear people argue that ‘the vast majority of the people of Wisconsin support a ban,’ yet every day we talk to people who are adamantly opposed to it. The prevailing attitude that outstate and rural small-town Wisconsin doesn’t seem to matter has got to come to an end. Madison is not Wisconsin, and we are trying to give the rest of the people a voice and remind Madison that it is not their community that will suffer at the hands of a smoking ban.”
“We are tired of the smoking ban proponents using irresponsible and oftentimes immoral tactics to get their way. Parading celebrities around, holding rallies, using scare tactics and spreading misleading information to push their agendas is really very low – and time and again it is apparent that they are getting a free ride with the local news media. Part of our job here at Ban the Ban is to chase down and set the record straight on the issues; but this has become a monumental task now that the news media is helping to propagate the movement.”
Ban the Ban Wisconsin has recently incorporated in Wisconsin as a nonprofit organization and has begun stepping up their efforts to rally support, disseminate facts and information and spread the message that the People of Wisconsin deserve the right to choose.
Ban the Ban Wisconsin, Inc.
http://www.banthebanwisconsin.com
banthebanwi@gmail.com
Contacts: Ryan Evans, Joey Monson
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Smoking ban debate heats up
March 4, 2008
By Brian D. Bridgeford
Local advocates for and against allowing smoking in public places will be battling for the attention of lawmakers this week as the Wisconsin State Assembly considers a statewide ban on the practice.
Cycling champion and seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong will be at the Monona Terrace Convention Center in Madison at noon today to rally support for the measure, says Judy Spring, a Baraboo-based anti-tobacco advocate. It is the first time the cancer crusader has made such a visit to any state.
On Wednesday, representatives of the Wisconsin Tavern League will be at the Capitol speaking with legislators about a compromise on the ban and to assert the right of business owners, not government, to decide what their customers can do in their establishments, says Mick Quindt, local restaurant owner and president of the Sauk County Tavern League.
Last week, the Assembly's Public Health Committee held a public hearing on a proposed ban, and committee members are slated to vote on the bill today, according the Associated Press. Ban supporters hope Armstrong's presence will be enough to push the bill through the Senate and Assembly before the legislators end their session this month.
"We have more life in the bill now than in the last six months, maybe a year," said Assemblyman Steve Wieckert, R-Appleton. He supports a smoking ban that would take effect after the new year.
A spokesman for Assembly Majority Leader Jeff Fitzgerald, R-Horicon, said the earliest a ban could be considered is March 11, just days before the end of the legislative session.
In the state Senate, a representative of Majority Leader Russ Decker, D-Weston, said the proposal must be modified before it is likely to win approval from Democratic and Republican legislators in his house.
Quindt said members of the Tavern League think the ban is a violation of their right to decide how to run their businesses. He is the owner of Quindt's Towne Lounge on South Boulevard.
"We are trying to get a compromise that could still allow smoking in your bar part, but then your restaurant part would be non-smoking completely," he said.
Quindt said for many people, smoking is a part of the enjoyment of going out for a meal or visiting a bar. Allowing customers to smoke is "crucial," and banning smoking already has hurt businesses in Appleton and Madison where local bans have been implemented, he said.
Some bars in Madison had to shut down because of the financial impact of the smoking ban in that city, he said. "People were leaving Madison and going like into surrounding areas, like Fitchburg and Middleton and Verona, so they could smoke," Quindt said.
Quindt said whatever rules are created must be uniform. It hurts businesses even more if bars and restaurants in some areas have smoking bans while surrounding communities don't, he said.
Tavern League representatives will be visiting their state legislators Wednesday at the Capitol to impress upon them the business owners' view of the situation, he said.
"The government is infringing on the business owner and how he can operate his business," Quindt said. "We don't feel that's right, that government can put any more control on businesses. There's too much control right now on businesses."
Spring is coordinator of the Sauk County Tobacco-Free Coalition, a group supported by the county Health Department and state health officials. She compares second-hand smoke to environmental threats such as asbestos and rejects any idea of a compromise.
"It's not acceptable to allow smoking in bars," she said. "Second-hand smoke is dangerous to all the employees and patrons who are exposed to it."
Some states, such as Minnesota, allow smoking in outdoor sections of bars or eating establishments, she said.
Twenty other states already have smoke-free laws, Spring said. Wisconsin is lagging behind because its legislature has not yet agreed to approve a smoking ban.
"Nebraska went 100-percent smoke-free last week. Iowa is moving that way," she said. "Already our neighbors of Illinois and Minnesota are smoke-free."
If the Wisconsin legislature does not approve a uniform statewide ban, anti-smoking advocates will continue to push for bans on public smoking in local communities, Spring said. She criticized the Tavern League for its efforts to pre-empt local laws on the issue.
Last week, officials of the Wisconsin Tobacco Quit Line announced they received a record-breaking 20,000 calls so far this year from people wanting help to end their smoking habit. Normally, the phone help line and Internet service serves about 9,000 state residents per year.
"This unprecedented success in assisting Wisconsin smokers through 1-800-QUIT-NOW breaks all previous state records," said Michael Fiore, a physician who directs the University of Wisconsin Center for Tobacco Research and Intervention and manages the quit line.
This year's $1-per-pack increase in the state's tax on cigarettes was among the factors contributing to the jump calls, according to his statement.
Armstrong said Friday that while he's made fighting cancer the central issue of his life, he's never before been asked to speak out in support of a statewide smoking ban. Gov. Jim Doyle placed the call and Armstrong agreed, AP reported.
"Our main goal and objective is just to bring exposure to the issue," Armstrong said during a conference call. Doyle said Armstrong will help galvanize public support for the ban.
Armstrong will be at the rally in Madison and will hold a news conference in Milwaukee later that day.
Spring said she is optimistic about the eventually success of efforts to ban smoking.
"At this point, (almost) 50 percent of the United States is protected from second-hand smoke, I believe it's 22 states," she said. "Wisconsin is behind the curve, (but) we'll catch up eventually."
http://www.wiscnews.com/bnr/news/index.php?ntid=275397


Propagandizing the Smoking Ban

February 29, 2008

Ban the Ban Wisconsin is seeking to set the record straight on the ridiculous propaganda being put forth by the “six groups working to promote the ban” regarding their planned rally this coming Tuesday.

“The smoking cessation, pro-ban advocates think that they can push their agendas through guilt and manipulation. They are parading a stream of ‘woe is me’ stories before the crowds in an attempt to cover up their flimsy arguments behind human faces. It is a reprehensible tactic, yet they go out of their way to tug on the public’s heart strings.”

One of the attendees to Tuesday’s pro-ban rally will be bicyclist Lance Armstrong.

“Lance Armstrong is being used for name recognition and to push the so-called ‘health’ issue. In a recent newspaper article promoting the rally, Armstrong is touted as a cancer survivor, which while admirable, has little to do with smoking bans other than to draw sympathy. Once again we challenge that if this issue were indeed one of health, then a ban on smoking should be proposed, period. Promoting smoking cessation under the guise of smoking bans and hiding behind the cover of public health isn’t going to fly.”

Rally organizers will also be bussing people to Madison for the event.

“Is this an objective way to get your point across? Loading pro-ban protesters onto busses and bringing them all to a single point might look impressive, but it gives people a skewed perspective as to what’s really going on. If all you’re looking for are supporters, then that’s all you’re going to see. Once again, this isn’t a representation of Wisconsin. It is a representation of anti-smoking proponents.”

The local media continues to propagate incorrect information being presented as facts that support the anti-smoking cause.

“It is irresponsibility at its worst to see the media cover just one side of the story here since smoking bans are based heavily and are most often light on facts. Ban opponents are written off as agents of tobacco or liquor while pro-ban organizations get a free pass. Arguments by ban opponents are written off as agenda-driven while pro-ban arguments are treated as gospel. This is the sort of thing that has got to end before this debate can be considered legitimate. Otherwise this is nothing more than one-sided takeover of people’s rights.”

Ban the Ban Wisconsin’s interest in the topic remains one of open debate and integrity in facts. Much of their efforts have been directed towards gathering facts and looking at all sides of the issue instead of focusing strictly on “supporting” data and cherry picking useful talking points.

“The fact remains that when somebody has a vested interest in ancillary goals, their objectivity and integrity cannot be wholly trusted. Anybody can gather data and ‘evidence’ their cause if that’s all they look for. But it’s intellectually dishonest to ignore anything that disagrees with your personal views. And then to try to impose something upon the masses without a fair and open argument, well, it’s unbelievable that we’re even having to have this conversation in this day and age.”
http://banthebanwisconsin.wordpress.com/


Regarding your article:
http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news//index.php?ntid=273733
No restaurant smoking? No problem; some establishments don't allow lighting up even without a ban
Matthew Call / Daily Register
The article ends:
Supporters of a smoking ban want workplace smoking regulated in a similar manner to that of sanitation in restaurants and asbestos.
"You regulate other things, why not this?" asked Jeff Melby, a volunteer with Breathe Free Portage, a subgroup of the Columbia County Tobacco Free Coalition

Regulation is a fine alternative to smoking bans, regulating a safe level of exposure is not the same as banning a substance.
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2007/03/secondhand-smoke-should-be-regulated-by.html

Air quality testing by Johns Hopkins University, the American Cancer Society, a Minnesota Environmental Health Department, and various researchers whose testing and report was peer reviewed and published in the esteemed British Medical Journal......prove that secondhand smoke is 2.6 - 25,000 times SAFER than occupational (OSHA) workplace regulations:

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2007/11/johns-hopkins-air-quality-testing-of.html
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2007/04/bmj-published-air-quality-test-results.html
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2004/04/american-cancer-society-test-results.html
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2006/02/air-quality-testing-and-secondhand.html

Thus further nullifying the argument that secondhnad smoke is a workplace health hazard.

Mark Wernimont

Watertown, MN.

PS smoking bans here in Minnesota have closed 158+ bars & restaurants.......and counting.

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2007/01/100-bars-and-restaurants-put-out-of.html


With Armstrong coming, smoking ban push heats up
The Capital Times - Madison,WI,USA
With less than a month to go before the Legislature adjourns, advocates of a smoking ban in bars and restaurants are turning up the heat, bringing bicycling ...
Doyle, Armstrong unite on smoke ban
The Capital Times - Madison,WI,USA
Jim Doyle said it's time legislative leaders in both houses scheduled the smoking ban for a floor vote. "It's important for the leaders to allow it to come ...
Lance Armstrong looks to push for statewide smoking ban in Wis.
Chippewa Herald - Chippewa Falls,WI,USA
Cycling champion Lance Armstrong's visit to Wisconsin next week to lobby for a statewide smoking ban will mark the first time the cancer crusader has made ...
WisPolitics: Doyle, Lance Armstrong urge passage of statewide ...
WisPolitics.com - Madison,WI,USA
Jim Doyle said today that he would be willing to negotiate a phase-in period for bars in a statewide smoking ban, but indicated he would not wait longer ...
Smoking ban proposed in Monona
Wisconsin State Journal - Madison,WI,USA
Two Monona City Council members have proposed a smoking ban that will go before the council for the first time Monday night. Unless it 's referred to a ...
Debate on workplace smoke ban lights up
Wisconsin State Journal - Madison,WI,USA
Meanwhile, opponents are increasing their efforts to make sure a smoking ban isn 't passed. The Tavern League of Wisconsin has begun running radio ads ...
WISC-TV Poll: Democrats, Republicans At Odds Over Statewide ...
WISC - Madison,WI,USA
The results are in from a WISC-TV poll that asked likely voters whether they would support a statewide smoking ban for all bars, restaurants, and workplaces ...
Proposed smoking ban could affect city bars
Royal Purple News - Whitewater,WI,USA
Doyle proposed a smoking ban in all public buildings, workplaces, restaurants and bars in January 2007 in an effort to make Wisconsin smoke-free. ...

Letters: Gov. Doyle; Super Spin; smoking ban; Jim Kiser
The Reporter - Fond du Lac,WI,USA
Ireland is our 33rd largest export destination, so I guess the governor feels a need to visit every other year. OK, raise your hands if you believe Gov. ...
Both sides dig in over state smoking ban
The Capital Times - Madison,WI,USA
The multimedia ads, part of a protracted battle over a proposed smoking ban, are hitting the airwaves at a time when momentum for a statewide ban on smoking ...



Smoking ban takes away our freedom of choice
January 21, 2008

I'm a former smoker who made a conscious decision to quit smoking a long time ago. I knew the health risks when I started, but finally made a choice to quit because of those health risks. Notice the two key phrases there: conscious decision, and choice.

While I don't condone smoking, I certainly don't condone the fact that our governor and other legislators have imposed higher taxes on tobacco products, nor do I condone that they are pushing for bans on smoking in businesses such as restaurants and bars. If any of these places chooses to go smoke free, it should be at the discretion of the business owner, not government.

What is going to be next? Smoking bans in your car or home? How much more do "we the people" want to have people like Jim Doyle telling us we have no more personal choice whether or not it isn't the healthiest one?

This isn't simply about health risks any more; it's about freedom of choice. And if we continue on this path, it will be a matter of time before more of our freedoms will be no longer.

I for one don't want that for our country, and if you love freedom, especially freedom of free choice, you need to contact your legislators and tell them enough is enough.

SHAWN CLARK
Sheboygan
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Where Do You Stand, Wisconsin? The Smoking Ban Resurfaces

So here it starts. Yesterday the Wisconsin Senate chose to resurrect the State smoking ban (SB 150) and passed it through their committee which allows it to go to the floor now.

This is not acceptable.

I started phase one by sending out email letters, and since that didn’t gain me much I am now sending out hard copies of my letter along with packets of information regarding smoking ban damage and the lack of hard evidence regarding second-hand smoke.

Phase two starts now. I have put together an informal petition that I hope to get circulating around Wisconsin to help guage response as well as gather data.

This is where I need help. Anybody in Wisconsin who reads this, please sign the petition here and forward it on to everybody you can. We need the power of the people more than ever now, as the Governor Doyle and the Wisconsin legislature has proven to us time and again that they don’t care about anybody unless they make a ruckus. So you know what? It’s time to make a ruckus. It’s time to be as annoying and in-your-face as the anti-smoking crowd.

Remember, this isn’t about smoking. This is about freedom and rights. This is about the right of a person to choose their own path. It’s about the right of a business owner to run their business as they want.

Remember, the more we allow them to take away, the more we lose in the long run. Is this the future that we really want?

Below is my commentary on SmokeFree Wisconsin’s asinine press release on the Senate move:

SmokeFree Wisconsin: Statement on the committee vote on smoke free legislation
1/9/2008

For further information:
Maureen Busalacchi
(608) 268-2620

MADISON—The Wisconsin State Senate Public Health Committee took an important step today in advancing Senate Bill 150, legislation that would make all public places and workplaces in the state smoke-free. Unfortunately, amendments were added to the bill by the committee that create loopholes for Big Tobacco and delay health protection for restaurant and bar workers for two years. A coalition of public health and business groups urge a vote on the Senate floor as soon as possible to correct and pass SB150.

[See, here’s the problem with the anti-smoking crowd. They want all or nothing. There is no such thing as a compromise with them. They want it their way or no way… And of course, no way is not an option. They also want things to move along as quickly as possible, which I think is a ploy to make sure laws are in place before anybody has a chance to argue another side of the equation.]
“This legislation is long overdue; it is time for everyone who lives and works in Wisconsin to have basic health protection from secondhand smoke,” said Maureen Busalacchi, Executive Director of SmokeFree Wisconsin. “The bill needs to be corrected through amendments but we are looking forward to finally having action on the Senate floor.”
[She sounds like she is taking this personally. Shouldn’t the passage of restrictive legislation be based on objective reasoning over personal feelings? I mean, we’re talking about stripping away the basic rights and freedoms of Wisconsin residents and business owners in the name of public health - something that they cannot definitively prove anyway.]
A last-minute amendment was passed that exempts “a place of employment operated by a manufacturer, importer, wholesaler, or distributor of tobacco products” as well as “a tobacco storage facility” from the law (quoted from amendment LRBa0722/1). These broad and undefined exemptions would exempt tobacco company-owned businesses and possibly open up broader loopholes. For example, Reynolds American recently entered the bar and restaurant business by opening an establishment in Chicago. Such an establishment would be clearly exempted under this amendment.
[Here we go with the lack of compromise or exemption. What is the deal? Why such an all-or-nothing stance?]
“It is outrageous that tobacco companies still have a say when we write laws to protect health,” said Busalacchi.
[Here we go… The big, bad, evil tobacco companies are running the government. Yeah, right. This is a personal issue to people like Ms. Busalacchi. She’s on a personal mission here. She hates tobacco. She hates smoke. She hates smokers. She would rather see a blatant violation of freedom than allow big, bad tobacco to get one over on her.]
“The delay in implementation of the law is also a problem,” said Alison Prange, Wisconsin Government Relations Director of the American Cancer Society. “Why should people have to wait two full years to breathe free inside a restaurant or bar?”
[As always, I can’t help but to ask why it is that people supposedly have no choice? If people do not want to be exposed to ETS, they have the choice not to patronize establishments that allow smoking. Is it that hard to figure out? And stop throwing around this “breathe free” thing. Breathing free is having the right to breathe whatever we choose, not being told what to breathe. Give me a break!]
The measure is now available to be scheduled on the Senate floor where advocates believe a majority of Senators, including members from both parties, will pass the bill. If the bill becomes law, Wisconsin would become the 23rd state to require all restaurants and bars to be smoke-free.
[That’s because these people are placing the importance of pandering to special interests over freedom which is wholly unacceptable.]
Secondhand smoke contains more than 4,000 chemicals, including 69 carcinogens. An impressive coalition of health and business advocates have joined together to support SB150, including the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, American Lung Association, SmokeFree Wisconsin, Wisconsin Medical Society, Wisconsin Restaurant Association, Wisconsin Innkeepers Association, and others.
[Ah yes, the evils of ETS. It’ll kill you faster than Plutonium according to the surgeon general. Yet… OSHA has not put any limits on exposure. So if I worked somewhere where I was exposed to the same array of chemicals in a non-ETS related capacity, I wouldn’t have to take precautions, yet when it’s ETS you have to ban it to protect everybody. I don’t want to hear about biased coalitions who want to see the abolition (or at least the complete cessation) of smoking. There’s no objectivity to these people. If they are going to slap us with nanny-state laws and infringe this severely on our rights and freedoms, I want objective data. No opinions. No personal vendettas against smoke. No personal hatred of big tobacco.]



 






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